The Baptist Monk – an interview with Roy Searle by Shaun Lambert for Baptist Times
April 26th, 2010IT IS always worth talking to people who inhabit a space larger than that normally ascribed to Baptists. The Revd Roy Searle is such a person. He has walked in the front stage of ministry as a congregational leader and as former President of the Baptist Union of Great Britain (BUGB) but is equally at home back-stage in silence and contemplation.
Where he has moved outside a narrow range of movement in ministry is as Leader and co-founder of the Northumbria Community with its emphasis on Celtic spirituality and contemplation, and his wandering work in relational leadership within secular and corporate settings, as well as the peace process in Northern Ireland.
I have this sense of him having a harbour within the Northumbria Community and his family, but setting out on his coracle to wherever the Spirit blows him. A map of his travels tracing all the lines of influence of his life would make a fascinating document.
In a denomination that has often been a place that has put up walls, he is committed to creating a space where community can live without walls. I asked him about this paradoxical and apparently contradictory path he has walked for over twenty years.
‘For a denomination of activists contemplation is a clarion call to stop and examine ourselves and what we do. We can run ourselves into the ground with frenetic activity, which poisons the soul, in fact it doesn’t even reach the soul, it just dries up the soul’.
Roy’s own journey into the silent places began before he became a Christian when he was training to be an outward bound instructor as a young man.
‘The solitude of the open space, the mountains and the sea were important to me. I had time to reflect and face myself as well becoming aware of God.’
This rootedness in being rather than doing has enabled him to avoid the fate of many ministers, who can end up as project managers of little corporations.
Roy’s ministry would be much more about soul-caring, helping people find ‘the right seat, the fitting task, and a willing heart’. It has taken him outside the church into a wider circle of influence, which some might call apostolic. Roy himself uses this word with caution as he talks to me.
‘Out of this quiet place for me has come the forming of a building, envisaging, imagining a different future, transforming type-of-ministry. It is more apostolic rather than evangelistic although I am wary of apostolic as a word because of contemporary connotations about the way the word is used.’
I get a sense that it is about bringing words of healing, where communities, people, even organisations that have been broken, can be re-made. Sitting with him in a small café in the middle of London I am reminded of a hawk at point, hovering in the air waiting for the Master to send him flying off, content to hover, but desiring to fly over the ancient paths.
At Bible College in Northumberland where he first trained an emphasis on nurturing and mentoring has stayed with him. It was there he was introduced to the writings of Richard Foster who has since become a close friend and mentor. Roy has worked hard to mentor and nurture younger leaders in turn.
A thread of pioneering runs through his whole story. His first church in Portrack, Stockton, on a large council housing estate was an opportunity to pioneer. But even in an urban setting he was drawn to make space for being.
In his own experience he has found that congregations don’t always understand that what they see as a day ‘faffing around’ is actually a day seeking God.
Roy found time for me to talk to him within a week of having lost his father, not in a driven way but an available and vulnerable way. These deep family roots are very important to him.
‘I learnt from my mother hospitality and generosity, and from my father the importance of finding time for self, not in a selfish way, but to allow God’s right moments to break in.’
It was such a moment, seeking God on the rocks at Bamburgh, looking back towards the Farne Islands that Roy experienced a sense of God’s call, to follow a movement of God’s love.
‘It was a Scripture that just so resonated with me, ‘You are Peter and this rock I will build my church’. And I was on the rocks. The image was of reaching out to people out in the sea and pulling them onto the rock.’
It wasn’t until eight years later driving up the A1 in Northumbria to visit his parents with Bamburgh Castle on his right and the Cheviot Hills on his left, wrestling with a sense of his calling, that he realised that epiphanal moment on the rocks was not just about what he was to do but where he was to do it.
‘As I drove by the lit up castle I just started to weep. I realised, thick Geordie as I am, this was the place of my calling. That moment 8 years later rooted me in Northumbria.’
And then began the real exploration of Northumbrian spirituality and walking in ancient paths.
‘I found in Celtic spirituality this twin thing that mirrored my own life calling - the cell and the coracle,
The monastery and the wandering for the love of Christ, the aloneness with God but the building of community.’
Roy’s openness to other Christian streams of spirituality has been recognized by the wider Christian church with ecumenical appointments, such as an Honorary Canon at Down Cathedral, the burial place of St Patrick. His own hope is that as a denomination Baptists will journey into a greater openness.
‘I fear we are not as open as we should be, and I fear that in some ways our strength, our mission emphasis, sometimes blinds us to the strength of other traditions. There is an element of separation within Baptist spirituality which I really struggle with. Having travelled to Ireland for years if I loathe anything in life it is sectarianism.’
Roy believes that as Baptists we have great things to bring to the ecumenical table, including our mission emphasis and a flexibility, but that we need to recognize, humbly, that we are not the only guests at the table.
Twenty five years ago when Roy was involved in the founding of the Northumbria Community, his prophetic sense was that the church was in exile rather than moving towards revival. This forced him to repent, in the sense of asking questions that brought about an even more open, vulnerable and available attitude in his own life. What the Community in its rule might call ‘the heretical imperative’, asking awkward questions that upset the status quo.
This openness to being available and vulnerable has affirmed for Roy that actually God is for him.
‘Love is stronger than evil, light is stronger than darkness. Therefore you don’t fear receiving from others.’
This principle of receiving from others extends into the community life of the Northumbria Community, which is made of many diverse backgrounds, from Catholic to unchurched.
Roy would also see his spirituality being about common-sense and love not power.
‘Bede would see signs and wonders, for example, but then they would be back digging potatoes. In that working-class housing estate I worked folk would say to me, “Give your head a shake, Roy”.’
Within the Community the leaders would stress that ‘it’s the power of love rather than the love of power’ that is important. When they appoint new leaders a further adage would be, ‘unless someone has the humility they will not be given the responsibility.’
The Community has a Rule, a way for living which came out of the experience of living together for 8 years.
‘It gives us a framework for our lives,’ adds Roy, ‘that tries to take seriously the Sermon on the Mount. We want to live in the kingdom and the only way to do that is wrestle with these central words of Jesus’.
For Roy it is values that need to be at the centre of community, congregational and associational life.
Roy’s deep concern is to bring what is life-giving to people. As a Spiritual Director and leader of a community he is very aware that so many people are dying spiritually. The great life-giving commandment to love God and to love our neighbour is at the heart of Roy’s spirituality. He sees the Sermon on the Mount as Jesus’ outworking of this great vision of love.
He believes living the life of love and creating space for God will make all the ripples that are required to make a difference in the world. In the words of a poet, he sees ‘the windows opening in the trees’ and wanders through them.